Comments on: No Ed, the public is not with you! http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/ Leif Baradoy is a vital writer, poet, artist, husband, and consultant Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:58:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Leif Baradoy http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Leif Baradoy Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:13:39 +0000 http://leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/#comment-24 Hey Brian! Thanks for commenting. A few points: it is difficult to legislate or even have very good laws around who uses domain names. I mean, what about all the other Ed Stelmach's who would feel misrepresented if Alberta's Ed got the domain? Moreover, Cournoyer's site is malicious or defaming. . . In fact, I think he's offering fair criticism, which is in his rights. There's a few people who've blogged about whether Cournoyer is a cybersquatter or not. I believe that he is not, because he is not trying to make money nor is he using the site to misrepresent Ed Stelmach. I definitely agree that this issue is perhaps one of the few that the Alberta government should be worrying about, other than the fact that Ed seems committed to making it an issue. When they first go media attention, Ed refused to back off of his rhetoric or present the issue as a minor incident. I will reiterate that the way this issue was handled certainly causes me worry about how they will hire the more important issues. If you can't trust someone in the little things, can you trust them in the big issues? I really don't think so. I won't speak for Mr. Cournoyer, but if I were him I certainly would have reacted the same way if I received a bullying legal letter that states litigation will be pursued if I don't comply. Ed's office certainly walks right into the bully trap on this one, so, despite your sarcasm, we should only deal with the facts of what really happened, not what might have happened if the govn't had asked nicely. I actually didn't know much about Ed until this story, so I am an "Ed is a tool" convert--at least right now. Admittedly, he's made a blunder and this is the most info. I've cared to know about him since he was elected. I should note that I was rooting for him in the Alta. Tory leadership race. Again, you're right to point to the more impactful issues, such as Native rights and rent controls . . . I'll work to do a few posts on the bigger issue too. However, those more concerning issues certainly don't mean that this blunder has no importance or meaning. Thanks for commenting! Hey Brian! Thanks for commenting. A few points: it is difficult to legislate or even have very good laws around who uses domain names. I mean, what about all the other Ed Stelmach’s who would feel misrepresented if Alberta’s Ed got the domain? Moreover, Cournoyer’s site is malicious or defaming. . . In fact, I think he’s offering fair criticism, which is in his rights. There’s a few people who’ve blogged about whether Cournoyer is a cybersquatter or not. I believe that he is not, because he is not trying to make money nor is he using the site to misrepresent Ed Stelmach.

I definitely agree that this issue is perhaps one of the few that the Alberta government should be worrying about, other than the fact that Ed seems committed to making it an issue. When they first go media attention, Ed refused to back off of his rhetoric or present the issue as a minor incident. I will reiterate that the way this issue was handled certainly causes me worry about how they will hire the more important issues. If you can’t trust someone in the little things, can you trust them in the big issues? I really don’t think so.

I won’t speak for Mr. Cournoyer, but if I were him I certainly would have reacted the same way if I received a bullying legal letter that states litigation will be pursued if I don’t comply. Ed’s office certainly walks right into the bully trap on this one, so, despite your sarcasm, we should only deal with the facts of what really happened, not what might have happened if the govn’t had asked nicely.

I actually didn’t know much about Ed until this story, so I am an “Ed is a tool” convert–at least right now. Admittedly, he’s made a blunder and this is the most info. I’ve cared to know about him since he was elected. I should note that I was rooting for him in the Alta. Tory leadership race.

Again, you’re right to point to the more impactful issues, such as Native rights and rent controls . . . I’ll work to do a few posts on the bigger issue too. However, those more concerning issues certainly don’t mean that this blunder has no importance or meaning.

Thanks for commenting!

]]> By: brian cowan http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-23 brian cowan Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:32 +0000 http://leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/#comment-23 i don't think people should be able to buy a website domain of someone elses name and use it for something that that person would disapprove of. It is true that ed's people (and ed) should have known to register all the domains they could with ed stelmach's name. This reflects a general ignorance of the internet. It is also true that they could have approached it with more tact. This reflects the general arrogance of his government. This story isn't going to convince someone Ed's a bit of a tool if they didn't think that already... I'm sure if they wrote Mr. Courneyer a polite letter or gave him a ring he would have more than obliged to hand over the website... or he probably would have posted those letters and recorded phone calls and the same outcome would have happened anyways. But that's just gross speculation... or sarcasm I would like to hear a convincing argument on why (legally and morally) someone can buy a domain of someone elses name and do whatever they want with it. Also, this is one of the last issues I would want the Alberta gov't to be worrying about... I bet you they have received more letters and phone calls on this then the current injustices facing the Native population (which I do write to them about). I hate to throw out that card but that's how I feel... it doesn't seem important enough to make a big deal about... i don’t think people should be able to buy a website domain of someone elses name and use it for something that that person would disapprove of.
It is true that ed’s people (and ed) should have known to register all the domains they could with ed stelmach’s name. This reflects a general ignorance of the internet. It is also true that they could have approached it with more tact. This reflects the general arrogance of his government. This story isn’t going to convince someone Ed’s a bit of a tool if they didn’t think that already…
I’m sure if they wrote Mr. Courneyer a polite letter or gave him a ring he would have more than obliged to hand over the website… or he probably would have posted those letters and recorded phone calls and the same outcome would have happened anyways. But that’s just gross speculation… or sarcasm
I would like to hear a convincing argument on why (legally and morally) someone can buy a domain of someone elses name and do whatever they want with it.
Also, this is one of the last issues I would want the Alberta gov’t to be worrying about… I bet you they have received more letters and phone calls on this then the current injustices facing the Native population (which I do write to them about). I hate to throw out that card but that’s how I feel… it doesn’t seem important enough to make a big deal about…

]]> By: Rhett http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Rhett Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:41:29 +0000 http://leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/#comment-21 I can't understand why I haven't heard about this... this is amazing! I can’t understand why I haven’t heard about this… this is amazing!

]]> By: Leif Baradoy http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Leif Baradoy Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:21:00 +0000 http://leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/#comment-20 Hi Ben, Thanks for the comment. Ed and associates don't seem to even understand Web 1.0, so I doubt they'll be up for ANYTHING Web 2.0! L Hi Ben,
Thanks for the comment. Ed and associates don’t seem to even understand Web 1.0, so I doubt they’ll be up for ANYTHING Web 2.0!
L

]]> By: Ben http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Ben Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:05:17 +0000 http://leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/#comment-19 Leif, Nice post, it was good to get that link to the letter to the editor from the domain name association clarifying how that works. Hope Ed takes you up on your offer for consulting assistant! Ben Leif,

Nice post, it was good to get that link to the letter to the editor from the domain name association clarifying how that works.

Hope Ed takes you up on your offer for consulting assistant!

Ben

]]> By: Leif Baradoy http://www.leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Leif Baradoy Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:34:18 +0000 http://leifbaradoy.com/no-ed-the-public-is-not-with-you/#comment-22 Thanks to <strong>Debbie and Dave</strong> who inspired me to actually post on this, rather than just think about how ridiculous it is... <a href="http://www.chickenandegg.ca/node/65">http://www.chickenandegg.ca/node/65</a> Also, what sort of lawyer would advise his client to pursue this action? The lawyer's name can be found in the letter sent to Dave Cournoyer: <a href="http://david.cournoyer.googlepages.com/edstelmach.ca.pdf">http://david.cournoyer.googlepages.com/edstelmach.ca.pdf</a> Thanks to Debbie and Dave who inspired me to actually post on this, rather than just think about how ridiculous it is…
http://www.chickenandegg.ca/node/65

Also, what sort of lawyer would advise his client to pursue this action?
The lawyer’s name can be found in the letter sent to Dave Cournoyer:
http://david.cournoyer.googlepages.com/edstelmach.ca.pdf

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